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An Orkut Conversation with a SAREGAMAPA Fan

We use the word ‘fan’ so often that we forget that it’s short for ‘fanatic’. Reproducing here, a short conversation between me and a SAREGAMAPA ‘fan’ on the networking site – ‘Orkut’. It is so fresh that I haven’t had the time to analyse whether this conversation is hilarious or tragic or part of a black comedy.
Sourabh Kulkarni:
i think something has gone wrong. coz, we all have seen megafinal of saregamapa. and u were interviewed by mr.atul, but all we didnt understand, how mr.limbekar stood as mahagayak?even he didnt have a voice quality, and he was singing only gramin songs,on the other hand, mahesh sir was at his best, why did u not disqualify mr.limbekar at time of auditions?waiting 4 ur reply.

Kaushal:
it’s your opinion, sourabh and you’re entitled to it. If Mr Limbekar got through to the finals, I would have looked like a fool disqualifying him right at the auditions, wouldn’t I? Secondly, good music is something beyond individual tastes. So I assure you my friend that nothing has gone wrong except for the fact some other people may think different from what you think. So take it easy!

Sourabh Kulkarni:
in one of ur interviews, u told, u were also expecting a pair of Mahesh & sangita chitale, but all the dice went wrong marginally.Let me question u, if Mr. mutalik would have stood up as mahagayak along with Mrs. chitale, would zee marathi have had any problem?also, at the time of declaration, even they didnt announce the scores, that might tellu the story of partiality.i am not blaiming u, also Mr.limbekar was weakest with his pronunciations and still he is mahagayayak, that will really affect TRP, that is why, zee has assassinated the tallent, waiting 4 ur reply
Sourabh Kulkarni:
no doubt, good music is somewhere beyond the cards, but intellectual people like Mr.mutalik, Anandsagar pathak, got biggest setback. I have no objection abt zee marathi’ policy, yr temperament, but one thing is quite conspiquous,instead of brahmin people getting uplifted, they r badly pulled off, dont know , who is accountable for that
Sourabh Kulkarni:
one thing, Mr.Salil and Mrs. Ashatai, the were phenomenal with their duty. I was shocked, when Mr.salil desired mr.limbekar to be a mahagayak. They both r brahmins, they should have uplifted mr. mutalik & Pathak. We all wasted our more than 4 hrs in watching that preplanned show. same thing was also happened with MANGESH BORGAONKAR, Mr. kosambi also moved as mahagayak even he did not deserve it. Situation was different, when u were mentor for one of the schedules. That schedule had all the brahmin candidates,that is why, mahagayak was always going to be a brahmin. again zee went partial, when they selected Mrs.bhaisanmade neglecting sayali panase.hence, they r doing it incessantly
Sourabh Kulkarni:
waiting for yr reply
Kaushal:
I think you are wrong and I don’t want to answer such a venomous comment. We look at music and not whether it is sung by a brahmin or not. And let me remind you that zee does not select the mahagayak. It is people like you who send in their smses. Why are you insistent on making this a casteist issue? Salil Kulkarni and Asha Khadilkar are honest musicians who see music as their religion. There is no place for caste there. Why should they uphold only brahmins? If you’re shocked, it’s entirely your problem. Please bear in mind that this is my last communication to you on this issue. If you think you have wasted your time, simply don’t watch the show. It’s an easy solution, isn’t it?

19 Comments

  1. envy says:

    Hello Kaushal,

    i saw a CD of NAKSHATRANCHE DENE and i really liked the show!!

    Sanjiv chimbalgi{ sorry if wrongly spelt} is fantastic and i loved ur duet of KABIR!! remember my musical COMPOSITION OF KABIR lyrics…MUJHKO TU TARKEEB DIKHA E YAAR JHULAHE?

  2. हसावं का वाईट वाटून घ्यावं कळेना….
    बरं झालं कौशल, तू उत्तर देणं थांबवलंस…
    …असल्या लोकांशी तू सोशीकपणे इतकं बोललास हेच खूप झालं…

  3. mau says:

    hi kaushal da
    i really cud not laugh @ this conversation but cud just say “AJUN UJADAT NAAHI GA NAAHI GA”
    still there so narrow minded ppl sticking to cast & religion……pitty on our society…
    yes even i wud hav loved if MAHESH kaka wud hav been declared mahagayak …but just for the variety he had in his song & Mr. limbekar did not hav dat……but his voice was superb & u wr never wrong selecting him….so i think we shud just neglect such narrow minded ppl[:)]
    with love
    Manasi Kulkarni-Deshpande.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Hi Kaushal,
    Seems like this Saurabh is a complete NUT-CASE.. he is talking of everythin BUT MUSIC.. and if he thinks that he has wasted HIS TIME followng up this prog, then he is no different… bcoz he is WASTING OUR TIME by these senseless talks…Its sad to know that he doesnt realise MUSIC is ABOVE all these petty thoughts.

  5. seema says:

    kaushalji, i totally agree with you. saurabh k. is talkng uttr nonsense.the question doesnt arise atall abt the brahmin or non brahmin. mr. limbekar is far better than mr. mutalik. first of all Mr. Mutalik has to work very hard to be steady on SUR BEC SO mny times te suravarun ghasaratat. whereas mr. limbekar hay surala ekdam pakke aahet. so there was kuthle hi dumat navhte ki mr.Limbekar ka mr. Mutalik.

    and talkng abt sailee panse and bhasnemade. by all means, Ms. bhaisanemade was far more suprr than ms. panse. brahmhan kivva non brahmin

  6. Harshan says:

    Kaushal ..this was pretty interesting stuff.

    Personally I think that the best singer should be chosen by the judges and not by votes …as this is not a popularity contest. The issue with voting is that people can manipulate the system to make a winner out of an ordinary singer.

    I used to watch saregamapa ..in the early 90s …when the best were choosen by the elite group of judges. Now its a different story, its all about popularity, looks ..did I forget performance on stage ..:-) This thing beats me …why should a good singer be a dancer or a charismatic personality ..because thats what drives the votes.

    Just wanted to pen down my thoughts..wanted your perspective on this.

  7. Harshan says:

    Ooops ..in my hurry, I forgot to mention that this person Saurabh is imagining things. I have personally not watched this show, but I dont think any show for that matter will hang on to these caste system anymore if the channel has to sustain and survive ..if not anything else.

    Its all in the mind ..when the mind is clear from confusion …you can see things more logically and clearly 🙂 Sorry you had to go through this interview with him.

  8. Anonymous says:

    ok seema,i too agree wit u n kaushal dada tht limbekar was better then mutalik n vaishali was better than saily panse…but then wt can u tell abt mangesh n abhijeet..plzz i don’t evr agree wit this.i don’t want to blame the judges but abhijeet sings songs of only one type whereas mangesh is an allrounder wit all qualities of bcoming a MAHAGAYK….

  9. pranita deshpande says:

    कौशल दा नमस्कार
    सारेगम मराठी सुरु झाल्यापासुन मी प्रत्येक शेडयुल अगदी न चुकता पाहील आहे/ ऐकल आहे…
    माझ्यासारख्या कित्येक तरुण मुला- मुलीना या निमित्ताने तुमच्यासारख्या मान्यवर आणि गुणी व्यक्तिच्या टिप्स मधुन घरबसल्या खुप काही शिकायला मिळाल. परीक्षक ज्या टिप्स देतात त्यावरुन गाण किती बारकाईनी एकल जात हे पण दिसून येते यामुळे गाण कस गायला पाहिजे हे तर कळतच पण याबरोबरच गाण कस एकाव हे ही कळत..
    यामुळे माझी गाण्याची आवड अजुन वाढली..

    माझ्यासाठी कोण महागायक , महागायिका होणार हे तस फारस महत्वाच नव्हत आणि नसेल कारण इतक्या हजारो मधुन सिलेक्ट होण ह्यातच खरी जीत आहे.

    एक सुचना नाही म्हणणार पण एक विनंती कराविशी वाटते झी ला, मी प्रत्येक शेड्युल अगदी न चुकता ऐकल आहे ब-याचदा अस होत कि तिच ती गाणी [ म्हण्जे पुर्विच्या शेड्युल मध्ये झालेली ] असतात, त्या ऐवजी जरा वेगवेगळी गाणी असली तर अजुन मजा येईल त्यानिमित्ताने तरुण मुला – मुलीना जास्तित जास्त मराठी गाण्यांची ओळख होईल…

    धन्यवाद..
    प्रणिता देशपांडे

  10. Anonymous says:

    Hello Mr. Kaushal,

    SA RE GA MA PA che sagle parva mi enjoy karte.Pan Khup vayit vatla jheva Anand Sagar Pathak hyan na nirop dyava lagle.mala kalel ka kai problem hota naki.Je marka tumhi deta on screen var tyat te pude hote.mag kai jhala.kuthe kami padle te.tyancha aavaj tar khup chan hota.Tumhala request kartai ki tyancha kuthe tari program theva na.tyanchi gani aaikaila khup khup aavadtat.manna pasun request karte mi.

    Tumchya reply chi vat baghate.

    Thank You.

  11. Thank you folks for all your comments. Some comments, I can see are the result of misinformation and ignorance. I wish to clarify that I personally have no role to play in the actual show once the auditions are over. Similarly, I am not an organiser of programmes, so I am not really equipped to organise Anandsagar Phatak’s programme. The point of reproducing this conversation was to make people aware that there is nothing like a REALITY show. There are SURREALITY shows! And it is a worrying fact that the audience is taking these shows so personally. So much so that they will turn it into an almost CIVIL WAR. I urge people to wake up and see these programmes as just entertainment. Anything which has a public vote cannot be COMPETITION, it is just a popularity contest. Don’t be taken in by names like MAHAGAYAK. It takes years of toil before somebody can be a GAYAK let alone MAHAGAYAK.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Pretty interesting…millions of people and their own personalities…no comments on that coz that’s of now use…important thing is reality show…nothing but a money churning machine…roots originating from AB’s KBC…send sms to participate…normal sms is 1 buck….shell 6 bucks if you want to get in for KBC..can understand this….you are investing 6 bucks in anticipation of winning 1 crore…but what is this….making people dance/sing on stage and asking people to vote by sms…amnt ranging from 1-3 bucks…holy crap…millions of innocent (you may read stupid) ppl become pray of this and channels + telecom companies derive huge profits….i am thankful to god that he has not induced such fanatic enthusiasm in me…

  13. Anonymous says:

    Pretty interesting…millions of people and their own personalities…no comments on that coz that’s of now use…important thing is reality show…nothing but a money churning machine…roots originating from AB’s KBC…send sms to participate…normal sms is 1 buck….shell 6 bucks if you want to get in for KBC..can understand this….you are investing 6 bucks in anticipation of winning 1 crore…but what is this….making people dance/sing on stage and asking people to vote by sms…amnt ranging from 1-3 bucks…holy crap…millions of innocent (you may read stupid) ppl become pray of this and channels + telecom companies derive huge profits….i am thankful to god that he has not induced such fanatic enthusiasm in me…

  14. Vaibhav says:

    Now they want to bring racism into the only divine religion the world has ever had – Music.
    I admire the way you handled the situation.

    I have listened “Kalyanche Diwas” from Shantabai’s Nakshantrance Dene programme many times. Sadly, there was only one antara to it. Is there a complete recording of that song? Where would I find it?

  15. Vaibhav says:

    Now they want to bring racism into the only divine religion the world has ever had – Music.
    I admire the way you handled the situation.

    I have listened “Kalyanche Diwas” from Shantabai’s Nakshantrance Dene programme many times. Sadly, there was only one antara to it. Is there a complete recording of that song? Where would I find it?

  16. Anonymous says:

    hi kaushal,
    this is pallavi from orkut. hope you remember me. for the current issue.. i don’t believe this.. i thought when one is listening some beautiful songs, he goes in devine.. its rather shameful for this gentleman to concentrate on these issues than the songs and melody. but anyways, you get all kinda people on this small earth.. you need not find the entire galaxy for dumbs like these. you take care
    regards, pallavi rasal

  17. Anonymous says:

    I don’t watch this show, since I’m based in the US, but my parents do and my mom refers to it all the time. In fact, I’ve to make sure that I don’t call them during the show.

    Regarding the caste-ist tones of this conversation, let me assure you this isn’t something restricted to Indians in India. Some Indians in the US will try to find your caste from your last name or your eating habits (do you eat veg/non-veg, if you do then do you cook at home, if you cook, then do your parents cook in India) .

    Tuka mhane … “We are like that only”

  18. Archana says:

    Hello Kaushal ji,
    I saw the conversation with a fan of SaReGaMaPa. But i dont agree with the point that the person continuously sressed on or exhaggerated on, that brahmins should be uplifted alwaz! i think that one should not decide the quality of a person by his caste of course!!! but his/her talent should be taken into consideration alwaz!!!! this is very wrong i feel, that alwaz ‘brahmins’ should be uplifted!!! If a person is really talented, then the person should no doubt be uplifted and encouraged, IRRESPECTIVE OF HIS CASTE.!!!!
    Newaz thnks a lot…..

  19. Yogesh says:

    कौशल,
    मला 'बाबा' साठी सलिलनी गायलेले गाणे खूप आवडले.
    ते मला कुठे मिळेल का ?

    योगेश देशपांडे

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